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Advice on longboards?

Jan 22, 2012 by alexb

The tax season is here and I gave too much to the government. So to stick one to the man I want to pickup a light wind weapon and occupy Shell Point on those no wind days.
I have my eye on the Starboard Serenity and plan to test one in St Pete soon. I also have my eye on a Kona One. I would love to get the Starboard Phantom Race 377 but the carbon version is much more than I want to pay. I can't seem to find the older Phantom 380 Technora anywhere. The Phantom 320 is about the same as my Bic Jungle Wind so I don't really want it. Would love the Exocet D2 but it's also out of my price range. Don't really know of any other longboards still being made.
I sailed/surfed my F2 Lightning Race last weekend at Huguenot Park, perfect day and I got some nice rides. Love this board! It's fast! Doesn't surf that well though but still fun to ride. Worst part is it's coming apart at the seams and taking on water. Also bent the RDM extension and the U-joint bolt when the wave crashed down on me. Got that replaced/fixed though.
Any suggestions on longboards? Any recommendations on good shops to checkout within a 5-8 hr driving distance? I've pretty much searched all the shops in FL though. Anyone want to sell one or knows someone who wants sell one?
thanks for any help. alex



Replies:

Date: 03/19/2012
From: alexb

Thanks for the info Linda!

Niels, I've been meaning to try one of the lakes around here. The closest one to me is Lake Jackson but I'm not sure even a weed fin would help there. I'll probably be back in Jax in a couple of weeks, I'll post a reply here when I'm in town.
Date: 03/18/2012
From: ecwind_/)_

Hello Alex, Next time your in Jax let me know. I plan on giving the surf a try. Also I sailed at Ocean Pond in Lake City the other weekend and it was nice. There's a great launch on the South side and the water is nice a clear. Glad your enjoying the Kona. Niels
Date: 03/18/2012
From: Linda

Sorry i missed you. Went over to beach about 4:30 but did not see anyone sailing. Maybe today will have good late sea breeze too. The racks were 'accidently' removed by county crew when doing other work at beach. Word is they were mistaken for old fence remnants. New racks are planned but will all be on east side of training trailer.
Date: 03/18/2012
From: alexb

Took the Kona out yesterday ad SP. What a blast! 10mph and I'm FLYING! Finally figured out that pumping the sail requires a little bit of wind and how to get it up on a plane. Though it drops off pretty quick when the gust dies. Did a couple of loops from out of one channel and into the other one; then reverse. Pretty sweet, can't wait to get it out farther. Anyone want to do a trip around St Vincent Island? :) I tried it as a SUP with my paddle; this was the other reason I also got it. It definitely doesn't track as well as the Bic Jungle Wind so I give it a minus but it windsurfs much better. I had to constantly keep it straight. It would always turn on the second stroke with the paddle. Tried it with a 23cm and a 32cm fins. Didn't try the 38/44 or 46. Maybe that would have helped but would probably add too much drag, I might as well just put the centerboard down. Maybe I just need to get used to it.

Anyone knows what happened to the sail dry racks at SP? Posted a message but it looks like it was deleted or never made it through. :?
Date: 03/16/2012
From: fhawk

Alex--I grew up in Atlantic and Neptune Beaches, where I surfed all the time, so I am very familiar with the waves there, having sailed and WSed there a good bit as well. I used to go back over to sail when my folks were alive, but do not get over there much now. No question the Atlantic waves are much more demanding, and extract a higher toll for mistakes than typical Gulf Coast waves, which makes the waves over here a lot easier for learning to wavesail--certainly a lot less swimming. SGI is 1.5 hrs; CSB & Mex Bch about 2.3. It looks like some ESE could make SGI good around next Wed. Check the live cam at the Blue Parrot on SGI--waves are bigger than they look on cam. We are coming up on our windy season, April-May. There are normally a few 3.7 or 4.2 days at AP that will be fun for jumping and onshore wavesailing. Fred
Date: 03/16/2012
From: fhawk

Alex--I grew up in Atlantic and Neptune Beaches, where I surfed all the time, so I am very familiar with the waves there, having sailed and WSed there a good bit as well. I used to go back over to sail when my folks were alive, but do not get over there much now. No question the Atlantic waves are much more demanding, and extract a higher toll for mistakes than typical Gulf Coast waves, which makes the waves over here a lot easier for learning to wavesail--certainly a lot less swimming. SGI is 1.5 hrs; CSB & Mex Bch about 2.3. It looks like some ESE could make SGI good around next Wed. Check the live cam at the Blue Parrot on SGI--waves are bigger than they look on cam. We are coming up on our windy season, April-May. There are normally a few 3.7 or 4.2 days at AP that will be fun for jumping and onshore wavesailing. Fred
Date: 03/16/2012
From: alexb

Fred, I've caught some knee high swell at Alligator Point before. I've SUP'ed all the way around it as well. Haven't tried St George Island or Mexico Beach yet. The reason I drive to Jax is because my parents live there, so I have a place to crash. But I'll go wherever the wind's at and so far Jacksonville has paid off with waves/wind a lot more. I should mention my "wave sailing" is more like an hour worth of swimming and getting tossed around and then barely catching a wave; at least on the shortboards. :) But it's SOOO worth it for that one moment! SUP w/sail is a different story.

Steven, thanks but I think I'm set for boards right now. :) Feels strange saying that... I want more! LOL quiver's up to 88L, 96L, 125L, 170L, 220L and another longboard. Maybe something in the 145L range would be nice and a formula board and also a 110L FSW? Quad fin? :) LOL The biggest issue is hauling all this stuff around and I don't want a trailer or a van.
Date: 03/16/2012
From: Steven PVB

Alex, Considering selling my Mistral one-design. Excellent condition, but have to get some pictures. Not listed for sale yet, so let me know if this is of interest. Steven
Date: 03/16/2012
From: fhawk

If you want to wave sail, there are plenty of good waves at St George Island and Cape San Blas, where we sail all the time. Mexico Beach has a good break, and of course Panama City. Even Alligator Pt (1 hr from Tally) on a windy SSW can have chest high or bigger waves, so there are good opportunities closer than JAX. I now use only quads, as they work so much better in real surf--Goya 84, JP 72. Even have quad weed-fins that work well for the Gulf weeds. We find surfing the waves is, as you say, where we have the most fun. Fred Hawkes 850-443-9512
Date: 03/15/2012
From: alexb

Thanks Linda! :) It came with the 46cm fin. Don't really plan racing, not my thing. I also have a few smaller fins that I'll try with it in the surf and SUP.
Date: 03/15/2012
From: Linda

Welcome to Kona! Don't know which Kona fin would have come with your board - the 40 or 46. Mine came with the 40 (not sure if they even had a 46 back then). Tried the 46 at Midwinters and really noticed the difference. If your is the 40, might want to upsize. Sandy Point just got some 46s in this week. If you plan on racing, it will really help up wind. Also, keep your centerboard gasket out of the sun as much as you can. Replacing not fun. Otherwise, Enjoy! Hope to see you at the Stephen C. Smith next month.
Date: 03/15/2012
From: alexb

Decided to go for the Kona One. It arrived today. :) I'm so stoked!!! Have had some health issues so may not be able to try it for another week or two.

I'm leaving the Bic Jungle Wind over at my parents house in Jax. I've been using it there almost every weekend to catch tons of waves. It's perfect for the waves and barely any wind. With a small fin, I ride it almost right onto the beach, tack and do it over and over.

I'm so hooked on wave sailing. Blasting is fun and there has been some INSANE (to me) wind in Jax recently. Was out there a few times and it was gusting way into the 40's. But when you catch that wave and ride it... WHAT A FEELING! The waves eat the gear up though. I've been through three aluminum skinny extensions now. Chinook replaced them with no questions asked but wow they bend easily. Still, don't want to go back to SDM. Might try the carbon ones. Picked up a Streamlined alum to see if it's beefier but it's not, just lighter.
Date: 01/25/2012
From: alexb

Thanks Bill. I'm sure the 320 is VERY different from the Bic but I really don't think it will be the board I'm looking for the 2mph winds. That's exactly why I at least want to try the Serenity. As for the beat up Mistral, the beat up is what I'm trying to avoid. The F2 Lightning I have is working but I'm paranoid to taiek it out farther than I would like. Getting parts isn't that easy either. I love the adjustable mastrack but I had to modify the ujoint to fit properly so I wouldn't have to screw the base to the board. Couldn't find an original one but found one that fits close. I want the longboard to tour with and I'd rather take my chances on something newer.

Progressive Sports listed a used Exocet Kona 380 Elite for a reasonable price. I inquired as to its condition but they haven't replied yet. Looking at their prices and the price for the board; I don't think it'll be prestine. I find the board to be a very ugly design. LOL

I also picked up an 88L Mistral Score freestyle/wave (had two powerbox fins I wanted) and picked up a 96L Naish Hybridwave (it was cheap/new). I'm hoping the weather picks up so I can get back into the waves in Jax. Damnit! I NEED wind and waves!!! I wish I'd never picked up a sail! This addiction sucks!!! I just can't feed it! :)
Date: 01/25/2012
From: Bill Olson

The kona one may be your best bet. The serenity is a very specialized board and also uses a relatively long fin. I think the the phantom 320 is quite a bit different than the Bic, but a little fragile. Any of the old school long boards are good for light wind, just hard to find parts anymore. I have a beat up IMCo if you are interested.



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